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_Sign up for THE MEDIA TODAY, CJR’s daily newsletter._ THIS WEEK, JONATHAN SWAN’S INTERVIEW with Trump bucked the traditions of deference and White House control that tend to accompany
presidential interviews. But should that level of persistence and preparation be so unusual? In the UK, political interviews are not only more combative than in the US, but also more
impartial. And more revelatory. Stephen Sackur, host of BBC News’s _HARDtalk_, has interviewed hundreds of presidents, prime ministers, dictators, and policymakers. On this week’s _Kicker_,
he joins Kyle Pope, editor and publisher of CJR, to discuss objectivity and the freedom it gives foreign journalists. SHOW NOTES Taking Trump at his word, Jon Allsop, CJR _HARDtalk_, BBC
World News _Has America ever needed a media defender more than now? Help us by joining CJR today._
