Insights on pbs hawaiʻ‘i | 11/7/24 2024 general election review | season 2024 | episode 37

NEXT INSIGHTS ON PBS HAWAII  RESULTS NOVEMBER ELECTION. STATE AND KEY COUNTY RACE TO THE NATIONAL  STAGE IN WASHINGTON DC, WE'RE BREAKING DOWN HOW   THESE OUTCOMES WILL SHAPE THE FUTURE

OF HAWAII. JOIN THE DISCUSSION AS WE TALK ABOUT HOW THE 2024   ELECTION AFFECTS US HERE IN THE ALOHA STATE. NEXT ON INSIGHTS ON PBS HAWAII. ¶¶ ¶¶  ALOHA AND WELCOME TO INSIGHTS ON PBS

HAWAII. I’M DARYL HUFF. ELECTION DAY HAS COME AND GONE  AND THE RESULTS ARE IN. WE WILL LOOK AHEAD TO JANUARY  WHEN THOSE RESULTS WILL START TO TAKE EFFECT. WHAT WILL THE TRANSITION OF POWER

LOOK LIKE AND WHAT THE  AMERICAN PEOPLE AND HAWAII’S CITIZENS LOOK FORWARD TO COME  2025? WE LOOK FORWARD TO YOUR  PARTICIPATION IN TONIGHT'S SHOW. YOU CAN EMAIL OR CALL IN YOUR

QUESTIONS AND YOU’LL FIND A  LIVE STREAM OF THIS PROGRAM AT PBSHAWAII.ORG AND THE PBS  HAWAII YOUTUBE PAGE. NOW, TO OUR GUESTS. ASHLEY MIZUO IS HAWAII PUBLIC RADIO’S GOVERNMENT REPORTER. SHE

PREVIOUSLY WORKED AS THE CITY HALL REPORTER AT THE  HONOLULU STAR‑ADVERTISER. BLAZE LOVELL COVERS GOVERNMENT  ACCOUNTABILITY AND ETHICS AS A REPORTER FOR HONOLULU CIVIL  BEAT. RECENTLY, HE

WAS PART OF THE  INAUGURAL CLASS OF THE NEW YORK TIMES LOCAL  INVESTIGATIONS FELLOWSHIP. COLLEEN UECHI IS THE EDITOR OF  THE HAWAII JOURNALISM INITIATIVE AND A CONTIBUTOR TO  MAUI NOW. SHE

HAS PREVIOUSLY WORKED AS  THE MANAGING EDITOR AT THE MAUI NEWS AND AT THE MOLOKAI  DISPATCH. DAN NAKASO IS THE CAPITOL  BUREAU CHIEF AT THE HONOLULU STAR‑ADVERTISER. HE HAS BEEN AN EDITOR

AND REPORTER IN HAWAII FOR 30  YEARS AND PREVIOUSLY WORKED AT THE LOS ANGELES TIMES. LET ME JUST THROW, START TALKING  ABOUT WHAT EVERYBODY IS TALKING ABOUT. PRESIDENTIAL ELECTION. QUESTION

WE JUST ASKED, WHAT DO   VOTERS CITIZENS HAVE TO LOOK FORWARD TO IN 2025. BLAZE LOVELL FROM CIVIL BEAT WORKS DO YOU THINK   IT'S GOING TO BE LIKE FOR THE NEXT FEW  MONTHS FOR YOU THAT

TRUMP IS GOING TO BE   PRESIDENT AGAIN. >> SURE. COLLEAGUE CHAD BLAIR TALKED TO SOME LOCAL  FOLKS IN THE REPUBLICAN PARTY AND OTHER   TRUMP SUPPORTERS. LOOKING FORWARD TO EXCITED 

ABOUT HIS PROPOSAL TO ELIMINATE TIP TAX A LOT   OF SERVICE WORKS IN HAWAII. DON'T LIKE THE WAR IN   UKRAINE PROMISED TO STOP THAT. HOW HE'LL DO THAT NOT TOTALLY CERTAIN. LOCAL

REPUBLICANS WOULD LIKE  TO SEE SUPPORT FOR UKRAINE. MORE DEFENSE SPENDING DEFENSE  SPENDING CAN GENERALLY BENEFIT HAWAII. ONE SORT OF A GUESS DETRIMENT WOULD BE SHORT  LISTED

PAPAHANAUMOKUAKEA MONUMENT AS ONE OF THE   NATIONAL MONUMENTS AT THAT COULD BE TOWN SCALED. >>Daryl: WHAT DO YOU IT SUPPOSE   THEY WANT TO DO WITH IT? DO YOU THINK WE'RE GOING TO

SEE   OFFSHORE MINING STUFF LIKE THAT? >> ONE OF THE BIG ISSUES WITH   THAT HAS BEEN, MINING BEEN A CONCERN. BUT ALSO BEEN COMMERCIAL FISHING INDUSTRY. THAT WILL WOULD LIKE TO FISH

SOME OF THOSE WATERS. SOME PEOPLE WHO WANT THAT TO BE   PROTECTED AS RESERVE. OTHERS IN THE INDUSTRY   WANT TO BE ABLE TO USE THAT. >>Daryl: LET ME ASK YOU. WHAT DO YOU WORRIED ABOUT?

>> I THINK BIGGEST WORRY IS CLIMATE CHANGE. I THINK HAWAII MADE A LOT OF STRIDES TO  TRY TO DO THINGS WITH RENEWABLE ENERGY,   MADE STRIDES COMBATING CLIMATE CHANGE. PASSED RESOLUTION

OR LAW TO ENTER   PARIS CLIMATE ACCORD. ONLY STATE IN THE COUNTRY HAS. NET SO CONCERN   THERE THAT IF PRESIDENT DONALD TRUMP DECIDES  TO PULL THE COUNTRY OUT OF IT, WHAT DOES THAT   MEAN FOR

THESE CLIMATE GOALS HAWAII HAS TRYING  TO PUSH FORWARD IN THE PAST COUPLE OF YEARS. GOING TO BE A LOT OF BACK AND FORTH BETWEEN THE  STATE VALUE OF TRYING TO COMBAT CLIMATE CHANGE,  

CLIMATE INITIATIVES AGAINST  THE PRESIDENT'S INITIATION. >>Daryl: WHAT DO YOU THINK GOING IMPACT HAWAII. >> SURE COUPLE OF THINGS TO PIGGYBACK BLAZE SAID. HANDFUL OF

HANSEN'S DISEASE  STILL IN KALAUPAPA MOLOKAI. AND THERE'S A GREAT DEBATE WHAT'S GOING  TO HAPPEN WITH THE LAST PATIENT DIES. FEDERAL GOVERNMENT HAS BIG SAY IN THAT. OTHER AS

DOES THE STATE. OTHER IS THAT GOVERNOR JOSH GREEN  PROUD OF RELATIONSHIP WITH FIRST JOE   BIDEN AND RESPONSE TO MAUI. AND THEN KAMALA HARRIS. HELPED FUNDRAISERS. PLANNED FUNDRAISE FOR  

BIDEN END UP BEING FOR KAMALA HARRIS. GOVERNOR GREEN TOLD ME UNIVERSAL SUPPORT   AND PEOPLE POLLING FOR MAUI BOTH POLITICAL  PARTIES, HE SAID DONALD TRUMP WAS THE   ONLY ONE THAT TWEETED

SOMETHING NEGATIVE  ABOUT IMPLYING MAUI GOT WHAT IT DESERVED. >>Daryl: FEMA MONEY. >> YEAH. . >>Daryl: WHAT KIND   OF STUFF WOULD YOU BE MOST CONCERNED ABOUT? >> I

THINK HAPPENING ON THE NATIONAL LEVEL   PROBABLY GOING TO BE TEMPERED A LOT  WHAT'S HAPPENING LOCALLY BECAUSE EVEN   THOUGH IT'S REPUBLICAN PRESIDENT,  HAWAII DEMOCRATIC BLUE

STATE. SO THINGS THAT I THINK LOCAL  REPUBLICANS ARE EXCITED ABOUT,   MIGHT NOT NECESSARILY HAPPEN IN HAWAII. THINGS THAT DEMOCRATS IN HAWAII ARE NERVOUS   ABOUT MIGHT NOT COME TO FRUITION 

BECAUSE DEMOCRATS CONTROL THE   LEGISLATURE AND ALL THE FORMS OF GOVERNMENT. I THINK IT'S REALLY GOING TO BE MIXED BAG OF   WHAT'S GOING TO BE HAPPENING HERE. . >>Daryl:

THROW THIS OUT TO ALL OF YOU GUYS. ALL OF YOU REPORTERS HERE. SO WE WANT TO BE FAIR. I REALIZE I PHRASED THIS QUESTION WHAT   ARE YOU MOST WORRIED DONALD TRUMP PRESIDENCY. SHOULD ALSO, WHAT

DO YOU THINK COULD   BE POSITIVE COMING OUT OF IT? DO YOU SEE ANYTHING IN PARTICULAR? . >> I WASN'T THE ONE. REPUBLICANS, I WILL SAY THIS, WE THINK  OF HAWAII A LOT AS BEING DEEP

BLUE STATE. DATA SHOWING US BECOME RATHER PURPLE. ALWAYS HAS BEEN TRENDING MORE IN THAT DIRECTION. TALKING ABOUT THIS EARLIER. GOP SORT OF BECOME THE PARTY OF THE WORKING CLASS. AND DONALD

TRUMP MADE THE MOST GAINS IN WORKING  CLASS NEIGHBORHOOD IN KALIHI, WAIPAHU, WE SAW   WHAT HAPPENED WITH THE HOUSE RACES REPUBLICANS  PICKING UP SEATS PLACE LIKE KAPOLEI AND KUNIA. WE COULD

PROBABLY EXPECT THAT TREND TO CONTINUE. >> LIKE TO ADD. I WANTED TO ADD THAT TRUMP HAS MADE PRETTY  CONSIDERABLE GAINS SINCE 2016 ELECTION. 2016, HE GOT 29% IN HAWAII. 2024 UP TO 37%.

PRETTY SIGNIFICANT, ALMOST TEN POINTS RIGHT THERE. I THINK THAT IS IMPORTANT TO LOOK AT AS WELL AND   DEMOCRATS FOR PRESIDENT HERE  ALSO DECREASED IN POPULATION. JOE BIDEN 2020 GOT 63%.

KAMALA HARRIS THIS YEAR, 61%. SO I THINK WE'RE SEEING KIND OF THAT  DIVIDE, CLOSING NOT QUICKLY OR RAPIDLY   BUT DEFINITELY IS CLOSING. I DON'T THINK THAT'S QUITE   AS BLUE AS

PEOPLE THINK IT IS. >>Daryl: HOW MUCH OF THAT HAS TO DO WITH   THE DEMOCRAT PARTY, I DID SPEAK TO ONE DEMOCRAT  TODAY WOULD WAS SAYING, WHO WAS SAYING YOU'VE GOT   SUDDENLY GOT

THIS BIG REPUBLICAN CAUCUS. HAD A LOT OF PEOPLE REPUBLICANS ELECTED. AND HIS ANSWER WAS, WE HAVEN'T MESSAGED WELL  ENOUGH HOW GOOD WE ARE FOR THE WORKING CLASS. WHY WOULD THE WORKING

CLASS ABANDON US? WONDER IF THE FAILURE OF DEMOCRATIC PARTY HERE   IS FAILURE TO ACTUALLY HAVE A CLEAR MESSAGE. >> YOU KNOW, I THINK THAT JUST OVERALL,   WHAT HAPPENED WITH IT'S

PRESIDENTIAL ELECTION WAS  SURGE OF MOMENTUM AS SOON AS KAMALA HARRIS STEPPED   INTO THE RACE AND JOE BIDEN WAS OUT. TALKING TO COLIN MORE ABOUT THIS,   EXCITED A LOT OF MOMENTUM AND TIMING

WAS  TOUGH BECAUSE IT WAS LIKE THIS IS ENOUGH TIME   FOR HER TO CAMPAIGN AND GET HER NAME OUT THERE. BUT ALMOST A LITTLE TOO MUCH TIME FOR PEOPLE TO   START PICKING APART HER POLICIES AND

MESSAGE. RAISE QUESTIONS. BUT YOU ALSO HAD VOTERS SAYING DON'T KNOW MUCH  ABOUT HER BECAUSE SHE ENTERED RACE TOO LATE. COMPLICATED RACE, IN THERE EARLY ENOUGH  TO GET MOMENTUM BUT NOT

ENOUGH TO   REALLY TAKE IT ALL THE WAY. >> I THINK DEMOCRAT QUOTE. AS YOU KNOW, ALL KNOW, STATE LEGISLATURE  LAST YEAR PASSED HISTORIC TAX CUTS. MAKING CHILD CARE MORE ACCESSIBLE. IF

NOT MORE AFFORDABLE THIS SESSION. AND FROM THE GOVERNOR ON DOWN, REPUBLICANS  AND DEMOCRATS VOTED THE TO EASING AFFORDABLE   HOUSING SHORTAGE 50,000 UNITS I DON'T THINK  THAT'S

WIDELY KNOWN IN THE GENERAL PUBLIC. AND TO YOUR POINT ABOUT NOT  MESSAGING PROPERLY, THOSE ARE   PRETTY BIG EVENTS THAT I DON'T THINK IS RESONATED. >>Daryl: ULTIMATELY INCUMBENTS

DID REALLY WELL. THROW OUT THIS QUESTION. >> THERE WERE SOME NOTABLE INCUMBENT LOSSES. STARTING WITH THE PRIMARY. . >>Daryl: START WITH THE PRIMARY. RIGHT. THAT'S TRUE. LET

ME THROW THIS OUT THERE. I THINK IN PARTICULAR, STRONG  DEMOCRATS AND STRONG REPUBLICANS   THIS YEAR DON'T TALK WELL TO EACH OTHER. I THINK THERE'S A LACK OF UNDERSTANDING. WHAT DO

YOU GUYS THINK THAT  THE COUNTRY OVERALL IS SAYING. LANDSLIDE VICTORY. WHAT DO YOU THINK  THAT TELLS US ABOUT OUR COUNTRY? >> TWO THINGS. FIRST, THAT THERE'S JUST NOT REALLY  

MODERATE PEOPLE IN THE MIDDLE. I THINK KAMALA  HARRIS REALLY GOING AFTER MODERATE REPUBLICANS   TRYING TO BRING THEM INTO DEMOCRAT SIDE. >> I JUST DON'T REALLY THERE'S A LOT

OF   VOTES TO GAIN IN THAT WAY. BECOMING MORE POLARIZED   COUNTRY. ALSO THINK SITTING VICE PRESIDENT. >> INCREDIBLY DIFFICULT TO SEPARATE YOUR   POLICIES AND YOUR RECORD FROM THE

PRESIDENT. PEOPLE ARE FEELING DISSATISFIED, INFLATION,   GROCERY PRICES, GAS PRICES. DISSATISFIED  PART OF THE CURRENT ADMINISTRATION. DIFFICULT TO DISTANCE YOURSELF FROM THAT. >> I

SPENT A LOT OF TIME TALKING TO YOUNG   VOTERS FIRST TIME VOTERS IN HAWAII AT U.H. LOTS OF VOTERS APATHY. LOTS OF PEOPLE THAT WERE NOT   VERY EXCITED ABOUT EITHER TRUMP OR HARRIS. ALSO TALKED

TO MAYOR CALDWELL CAMPAIGNING   FOR HARRIS IN PENNSYLVANIA. HE WAS ENERGIZED BY ALL THE   YOUNG ENTHUSIASM COMING NOT FROM PENNSYLVANIA  ALWAYS, BUT COMING IN FROM OTHER COUNTRIES. I THINK

THIS MAY BE A WAKEUP CALL TO  DEMOCRATS IN HAWAII MOBILIZE YOUNG VOTE,   AND LOOK OR ELSE LOOK WHAT HAPPENS NATIONALLY. >>Daryl: SEEMS LIKE REPUBLICANS HAVE SAID,   MAY HAVE BECOME

PARTY OF THE WORKING CLASS. WHAT DO YOU THINK WORKING CLASS SEES IN THE   REPUBLICANS, SEES IN DONALD TRUMP? >> WELL, AT LEAST LOCALLY, THEY SEE   NOT REPUBLICANS, THEY'RE NOT

DEMOCRATS BEEN  IN CONTROL OF GOVERNMENT LEGISLATURE IN THE   DECADES SEEING OUTSIDE NEIGHBORS URBAN HONOLULU,  KNOCK ON WHAT'S HAPPENING WITH REST OF THE NATION   GOING TO THE RIGHT

NOT JUST EVEN THOUGH ECONOMIC  INDICATORS TELLING US ECONOMY IS SET, PRETTY   GOOD INFLATION STILL SUCKS. HURTING PEOPLE'S POCKET BOOKS. SAYING EARLIER PART OF WORKING CLASS CLASS 

NEIGHBORHOODS HURT THE MOST LAST FOUR YEARS. >>Daryl: WENT RENTS WENT UP. FOOD COSTS WENT UP. >> PEOPLE LEAVING HAWAII. >>Daryl: WHAT DO YOU THINK VOTERS WERE SAYING.

>> I THINK SAYING IS I THINK TREND REPUBLICAN   PARTY, WITH TRUMP IN POWER, PEOPLE WHO WORK FOR  TRUMP NOT CONFLICTED ABOUT VOTING FOR TRUMP. VOTING REPUBLICAN. VERY STRONGLY. WITH

TRUMP. NOTHING HE CAN DO OR SAY CAN CHANGE THEIR MIND. DEMOCRAT PARTY PEOPLE CONFLICTED, THERE ISN'T  CLEAR LEADER IN DEMOCRAT PARTY CAN RALLY BEHIND. AND THEN ALSO, PEOPLE WERE 

CONFLICTED WORE IN GAZA. ALL THE CURRENT POLICIES AN  ACTIONS OF THE ADMINISTRATION. AND SO I THINK THAT FRACTURED DEMOCRAT PARTY AND   REALLY IMPACTED HOW THE RESULTS CAME OUT.

>>Daryl: DEALING WITH ISRAEL WAS REALLY   DILEMMA FOR THE DEMOCRAT PARTY. >> I THINK THAT'S WHERE YOU SEE,   CAN'T BE SITTING VICE PRESIDENT AN SAY, I  DON'T LIKE

THIS FOREIGN POLICY THAT WE'RE   DOING I DON'T LIKE THE WAY THAT WE'RE HANDLING  WAR IN GAZA IF YOU ARE SITTING VICE PRESIDENT. YOU'RE KIND OF HANDS ARE TIED IN THAT 

SITUATION IF YOU'RE KAMALA HARRIS. THINK THAT IS BIG WEAKNESS. I GREW UP U.S. IN SUPPORT OF ISRAEL. EVER SINCE CREATION OF THE JEWISH STATE. TALK TO YOUNG PEOPLE. >>Lauren:

COMPLETELY CHANGED. >> YEAH. >>Daryl: ALSO, WHOLE, UNDERSTANDING  OF COLONIZATION AND IMPERIALISM. OCCUPATION. >> ESPECIALLY IN HAWAII. >>Daryl: SPECIFIC QUESTION

FROM  TOM IN WAIKIKI, WHAT EFFECT DO YOU   THINK TRUMP WILL HAVE ON VETERANS? I THINK HE'S MEETING VETERANS LIKE   ONES WOULD DEPEND ON THE GOVERNMENT FOR  THEIR MEDICAL CARE AND OTHER

SUPPORT. IS THAT SOMETHING THAT THEY  SHOULD BE CONCERNED ABOUT? GIVEN ALL OF THE TALK ABOUT CUTTING  GOVERNMENT BENEFITS GOVERNMENT COST. >> THINK THAT'S DEFINITELY  BIG WORRY

FOR THAT POPULATION. TRUMP HAS PROMISED TO CUT A LOT OF THAT SOCIAL  SAFETY NET BENEFITS THAT ALREADY GETTING. >> THINK ONE OF THE THINGS THAT HIS TREATMENT  OF VETERANS ALWAYS BEEN

SORT OF MIXED BAG. >> RHETORIC BEHIND IT. I THINK. HE'S NOT ONE TO BE SUPERVOCALLY SUPPORTIVE. IN FACT, IN TIMES HAS BEEN CASHLY   DISRESPECTFUL TOWARDS VETERANS. >> I THINK

IT'S POSSIBLE THAT YOU   SHOULD BE CONCERNED I THINK ABOUT WHAT  A TRUMP PRESIDENCY MEANS FOR SOME OF   THESE BENEFITS YOU RECEIVE IF YOU ARE A VETERAN. >>Daryl: DO YOU THINK

THAT PEOPLE IN THE SAFETY   NET SHOULD BE WORRIED? >> I THINK SO. IRONIC THING ABOUT THAT. WITH THE WORKING CLASS,   FEELING LIKE TRUMP SUPPORTS THEM, REPUBLICAN PARTY  HAS A LOT OF

CONCERNS ABOUT WELFARE, ABOUT SOCIAL   SERVICE PROGRAMS AND ABOUT MAKING CUTS TO THAT. AND SCALING BACK GOVERNMENT SPENDING. SO I THINK VERY PEOPLE THAT ARE HOPING THEY MIGHT  GET SOMETHING

BETTER SEE BETTER ECONOMIC RESULTS,   IN THEIR OWN LIVES, IT MIGHT BE TOUGH WHEN IT  COMES TO ACTUALLY CUTTING DOWN THAT BUDGET. SEEING TRICKLE DOWN AFFECTS WHO IS GOING TO  BE BENEFITS FROM

THAT AND HURT FROM THAT. >>Daryl: RIGHT TO INTERPRET WHAT TRUMP SAID  AND WHAT THE PEOPLE SURROUNDING HIM HAS SAID,   AS BASICALLY TRICKLE DOWN ECONOMICS AGAIN? WE'RE GOING TO

HELP YOU BECAUSE WE'RE GOING   TO MAKE ECONOMY GREAT? >> YEAH. I THINK TRUMP PRESIDENCY IS THEY'RE  NOT ONES TO BE HEAVY ON POLICY. DEMOCRATS ARE KIND OF THE ONES THAT ARE

LIKE,  PUTTING DIFFERENT POLICY PLANS ABOUT DETAILS. I THINK JUST DOESN'T REALLY RESONATE WITH PEOPLE. HEAR TRUMP, I'M GOING TO GIVE THESE TAX CUTS. WHAT DOES THAT MEAN? LOOK LIKE?

YOU DON'T REALLY GET INTO  THE NITTY‑GRITTY OF THAT. PEOPLE AREN'T REALLY LISTENING  AND THINKING ABOUT IT IN THAT WAY. MESSAGING, I THINK, AND YEAH. >>Daryl: DO YOU GUYS

THINK THAT   TRUMP IS GOING TO CARRY OUT THE THREATS  TO USE THE POWER OF GOVERNMENT TO PUNISH   ENEMIES AN REWARD FRIENDS? >> HE CERTAINLY SAID THAT. HE WANTS TO ON DAY ONE PARDON

JANUARY 6 RIOTERS. WANT TO PROBABLY PARDON HIMSELF. HE'S PROMISED TO USE THE DEPARTMENT  OF JUSTICE TO TARGET LISTEN AM IS. HE WANTS TO GO AFTER JOURNALISTS WHAT  HE SAYS, GRANTED

THAT'S WHAT THE CAVEAT   WHEN HE WAS PRESIDENT BETWEEN 2016  AND 2020, HE SAID LOT OF THINGS. THAT NEVER PANNED OUT. THINK ABOUT BUILD THAT WALL. SO I MEAN, I GUESS IT'S YET TO BE

SEEN. BUT WHAT IS WORRYING I THINK A LOT OF PEOPLE,   CLOSEST ADVISORS THAT HE HAD THAT TAPPED DOWN  ON HIS WORST INSTINCTS, THEY'RE GONE NOW. SO HIS SAFETY. >>Daryl: NOT JUST

GONE. WROTE BOOKS AND SAYS HE WASN'T FIT TO BE   PRESIDENT. >> YEAH. >>Daryl: I THINK 2025 TRUMP ADMINISTRATION  IS GOING TO COME OUT BLAZING. WHEN YOU DON'T HAVE A

JOHN KELLY, SAYING. >>Daryl: AND YOU DON'T HAVE DEMOCRATIC   MAJORITY EITHER HOUSE OR SENATE. >> YOU'VE GOT CABINET AND ADMINISTRATION FULL   OF PEOPLE THAT ARE LOYAL

TO DONALD TRUMP. . >>Daryl: FOR HAWAII, AS A BLUE STATE, SHOULD  WE BE MORE WORRIED ABOUT CONGRESS TURNING RED? >> I MEAN, I THINK YES AND NO. REPRESENTATION IS STILL  

OVERWHELMED, ALL DEMOCRATS. BUT I THINK IT IS POSSIBLE. WE COULD LOSE SOME TYPE OF FEDERAL FUNDING. SURE NEXT COUPLE OF MONTHS, A LOT OF NONPROFITS   PROBABLY TRYING TO SECURE FUNDING 

BEFORE SOME OF THAT GETS CUT OFF. THAT GOES ALONG WITH JUST REGULAR  CUTS THAT PRESIDENT TRUMP WANTS   TO ENACT ACROSS THE BOARD SPENDING. >> WANTS TO CUT SO MUCH OUT OF BUDGET. WHERE

IS THAT GOING TO COME FROM. >>Daryl: CAN YOU EXPLAIN WHY THE STOCK   MARKET WENT CRAZY WHEN HE GOT ELECTED. >> BILLIONAIRE SUPPORTING ELON MUSK. ROOTING FOR HIM SAYING BUMP

ECONOMY UP. AND STOCK MARKET AS WE KNOW, SEES ALL KINDS   OF JUMP AND DIPS BASED ON. >>Daryl: 1800 POINTS. IT WAS. >> MAYBE   IT'S BECAUSE IT WAS SUCH A DIVISIVE WIN. I

THINK MAYBE THE STOCKS MARKET WOULD HAVE   ANTICIPATED, PEOPLE ARE ANTICIPATE  IT BEING ANOTHER 20 ELECTION. FOR DAYS AND DAYS, BECAUSE SO MUCH FINALITY IN  IT, THAT KIND OF HELPED PROBABLY

BOOST THE MARKET. >>Daryl: PEOPLE COVER THESE CAMPAIGNS  YOU GUYS ALL HAVE EXPERIENCE DOING THIS. WERE YOU SURPRISED BY HOW ELECTION NIGHT WENT? >> LOCALLY OR NATIONALLY? .

>>Daryl: NATIONALLY. >> I WASN'T SURPRISED. I WAS READING AND WATCHING THE POLLS EVERY DAY. TOO CLOSE TO CALL. . >>Daryl: DIDN'T END UP BEING TOO CLOSE TO CALL.

>> RIGHT. I DIDN'T BELIEVE IT. I DIDN'T BELIEVE IT WAS TOO CLOSE TO CALL. BECAUSE A LOT OF PEOPLE IN THIS DAY  AND AGE DON'T ANSWER POLLS QUESTIONS. EVEN IN HAWAII,

WHERE THERE'S  A LOT OF TRUMP SUPPORTS. PEOPLE DIDN'T WANT TO ACKNOWLEDGE REPUBLICANS  VOTING FOR PRESIDENT TRUMP BEFORE THEY VOTED. >>Daryl: YOU CAN SHIFT IT LOCAL NOW I

THINK. I HAVEN'T GOT AN LOT MORE QUESTIONS ABOUT   PRESIDENT TO BE TRUMP. PRESIDENT TO BE? PRESIDENT‑ELECT. ANNA MAKIKI MORE POLLING PLACES ON ELECTION DAY. WHO WANTS TO START? >>

THAT'S BEEN THE ARGUMENT SINCE 2020. YOU TALKED LOT OF VOTING RIGHTS GROUP. EXPERTS. ARE THERE PLACES THAT DO  MAIL BALLOTING LIKE HAWAII. HAVE A LOT MORE IN PERSON  POLLING LOCATIONS

PER COUNTY. THAN WE DO. SOME OF THEM LIKE   COLORADO, EVEN HAVE IT IN THE LAW. THE COUNTY CLERKS EVEN FROM 2020,   HAVE KIND OF LIKE PUSHED BACK AGAINST THIS  IDEA WE NEED TO HAVE MORE VOTER

CENTERS. WE END UP WITH LONG LINES IN 2020. AND A LOT OF GROUPS WENT TO SEE, TOLD YOU SO   PROMISED TO SPEND THE LAST FOUR YEARS PREPPING  AND MAKING SURE THAT IT NEVER HAPPENS AGAIN. IT

HAPPENED AGAIN ON TUESDAY. >> IT'S NOT LIKE STARTING OVER   AND REINVENTING THE WHEEL. BEFORE ELECTION DAY,   THERE ARE REMOTE IN PERSON LOCATION. BUT AS WE KNEW FROM 2020, A LOT

OF VOTERS,   IT'S FACT, WERE REPUBLICANS WOULD  WANT TO VOTE ON ELECTION DAY. SUDDENLY, ALL OF THOSE REMOTE  SATELLITE LOCATIONS ARE GONE. COULD HAVE VOTED WEEK BEFORE. 2 WEEKS BEFORE.

ALL HAVE TO LINE UP KAPOLEI  HALE AND HONOLULU HALE. SO THERE IS A TEMPLATE FOR IT IN HAWAII. >> I THINK TOO, REPUBLICAN PARTY OF HAWAII   WAS SENDING OUT EMAILS TO THEIR MEMBERS 

ENCOURAGING THEM VOTE IN PERSON, DO NOT   THINK THIS DO NOT VOTE BY MAIL. VOTE IN PERSON. BACK TO VOTE BY MAIL, DO IT AS  CLOSE TO THE DAY AS POSSIBLE. I THINK MAYBE ALSO I A MATTER OF  WORK

TOGETHER SOME OF THESE PLACES,   ENCOURAGE IF YOU ARE GOING TO ENCOURAGE PEOPLE  TO ONLY VOTE IN PERSON, THEN YOU SHOULD ALSO   ENCOURAGE THEM TO VOTE EARLIER IN PERSON. BECAUSE I BELIEVE

THAT NO LINES LEADING UP   UNTIL ACTUAL ELECTION DAY. PRETTY QUICK TO JUST CAST   YOUR VOTE AT KAPOLEI HALE, CITY HALL. >>Daryl: PEOPLE BRING SNACKS AND UMBRELLAS. >> ORDERING

PIZZA. >> ON ELECTION DAY,   TO BLAZE'S POINT, LAST PERSON TO VOTE IN HAWAII  WAS SENATOR BRENDAN AWA, HAD TO COME OVER FROM   KAHUKU SIDE OF THE ISLAND AND AT KAPOLEI.

>>Daryl: SORT OF THEATER TOO. HE INTENDED TO. >> THAT'S YOUR WORD   TO THE POINT, OVERALL EFFECT WAS IT WAS  A HISTORICALLY LATE END OF THE POLLING. I MEAN, NEVER GONE THIS

LATE. >> GOT RESULTS NEXT DAY. PAST MIDNIGHT. >> WELL PAST. . >>Daryl: WE USE ALWAYS HAVE PROBLEMS TOO. GOT 200 PRECINCTS, 200 VOTING SITES, HAVE  MULTIPLE PROBLEMS EVERY

SINGLE ELECTION. >> YOU GET, I GOT ACTUALLY MORE  ANGRY COMMENTS DURING THOSE KINDS   OF ELECTIONS THAN I GOT FROM THIS ONE. PEOPLE ARE QUITE STOIC OUT THERE. ANGRY BUT LIKE, THEY

STUCK TO IT. ONE PERSON SAY, ONE, WHATEVER THEY DON'T   WANT TO CRITICIZE VOTERS THAT DID THAT. VERY CAREFUL NOT TO CRITICIZE FOR   VOTERS. GOOD FOR THEM. >> DIDN'T SEE THE

LINE   AND GO SCREW IT, I'M GOING HOME. >> I THINK SOME PEOPLE I SPOKE TO,   SOME PEOPLE IN LINE AT HONOLULU HALE. AND SOME PEOPLE SAYING THAT THEY WANT   TO VOTE IN PERSON ON

ELECTION DAY BECAUSE IT  WAS SUCH A CONSEQUENTIAL ELECTION BECAUSE OF   THE PRESIDENTIAL ELECTION. SUCH A BIG ELECTION. I WAS KIND OF THINKING, WENT ON, PROBABLY STILL  IN LINE AND

PRESIDENTIAL ELECTION WAS PRETTY   WRAPPED UP AT THAT POINT. CLOSE TO BEING CALLED. AND SO YEAH, I DON'T THINK THAT PEOPLE, SPOKE  TO IN LINE, WHEN I WAS THERE, ABOUT 6:00ISH,   PEOPLE

WERE NOT UPSET NECESSARILY THAT  THEY HO TO WAIT IN THIS LONG LINE. IN FACT, I MAYBE SHOULD HAVE VOTED EARLIER. COULDN'T GET THERE FOR XYZ REASON WHY I'M   GOING TO STAND IN THIS

LINE. >> PICK YOUR POISON KIND THING   MUCH BEFORE THE MAIL‑IN BALLOTS HAVE TO BRING IN   BALLOTS FROM MOLOKAI, MAUI HARD TO ACCESS. >> WENT UP TO SLEEP, WOKE UP NEXT MORNING.

>> >>Daryl: THEY HAD NATURAL,   FLOODING OR SOMETHING WRONG WITH THE VAN. IN KONA. GETTING I REMEMBER WAITING ON THOSE. >> GOOD POINT TOO. MOLOKAI VOTES TO HAVE BEEN FLOWN

  ACROSS THE AIRPLANE TO BE COUNTED. VOTER SERVICE CENTERS THERE. ASKED COUNTY CLERK,   WHY DON'T WE HAVE MORE CENTERS. TALK ABOUT THIS LAST COUPLE OF ELECTIONS. ONE OF THE REASONS IS

THAT  THEY DON'T HAVE THE STAFFING. SINCE PANDEMIC JUST REALLY HARD TO  FIND VOLUNTEERS AND FULL‑TIME STAFF. AND GET THEM UP TO SPEED WITH EQUIPMENT  AND EVERYTHING THEY HAVE TO DO.

AGAIN, DIFFERENT STRUGGLES  FROM DEPENDING ON MAIL IN OR   ALL THE POLLING STATIONS WE USED TO HAVE. >> HONOLULU CLERK HAD SIMILAR EXPLANATION. TROUBLE WITH STAFFING. >>Daryl:

ONLY SO MUCH THEY CAN DO. NOW INSISTED THAT PRETTY MUCH ALL WORK SHOULD BE  DONE BY PROFESSIONAL STAFF INSTEAD OF VOLUNTEERS. HAD OLD DAYS YOU HEARD THIS NUMBER. AT FIRST DIDN'T BELIEVE

IT. MORE I THOUGHT ABOUT IT, 4,000  VOLUNTEERS FOR EVERY ELECTION. THAT'S LOT OF PEOPLE TO HERD, TRAIN,  A LOT OF THINGS COULD GO WRONG   A LOT OF THINGS COULD GO WRONG. >> A LOT

OF THEM REPUBLICANS WANT TO SEE   FIRSTHAND WHETHER HAWAII ELECTION ARE SECURE. AND I DID A STORY AFTER THE PRIMARY,   BASED ON OFFICIAL JURORS THEY'RE  CALL REPUBLICANS SAYING, THEIR

TIED. I WANTED TO SEE FOR MYSELF. I TELL PEOPLE, DON'T WORRY ABOUT IT. WHAT ABOUT THIS PART? WHAT ABOUT THAT? >>Daryl: I MEAN, ALL OF US, YOU GUYS  HAVE COVERED ELECTIONS FOR

YEARS. IS THERE REALLY ANY LEGITIMATE WORRY ABOUT FRAUD? >> THERE HAS BEEN NO EVIDENCE OF WIDESPREAD FRAUD   HERE IN HAWAII. VOTER FRAUD. >>Daryl: ARE THERE HOLES IN THE PROCESS?

IF YOU WERE GOING TO COMMIT FRAUD, WOULD YOU, AND   TRY TO INFLUENCE ELECTION, DO YOU SEE ANY GAPS? >> I THINK SO. I DON'T NECESSARILY THINK IT'S MY DID‑I  DON'T KNOW

INTRICACIES ENOUGH OF IT. BUT HERE, ONE THING THAT I  I'VE BEEN THINKING A LOT. DID STORY ELECTIONS COMMISSION HERE. CRITICAL VOTING. FACTION OF TEETERING ON ELECTION DENIAL. SOME OF

THEM THEN THE DON'T THINK BIDEN   WON THE ELECTION. SPREAD ENVIRONMENT   MASKING ANY TYPE OF CONCESSION, IMPROVE THIS GETS  ATTACKED THROW THE BABY OUT WITH THE BATH WATER. ANY ERROR

EQUALS WHOLE SYSTEM IS BROKEN. BECAUSE OF THAT, THEY'RE NOT TALKING ABOUT   MAKING IMPROVEMENTS BECAUSE THEY'RE AFRAID OF  IT BEING JUMPED ON LIKE THIS WHOLE CONSPIRACY. >> I

THINK OVERALL, JUST MAKES OUR ELECTION  PROCESS WORST BECAUSE YOU CAN'T REALLY TALK   ABOUT IT IN OPEN AND PRODUCTIVE WAY. . >>Daryl: YOU WERE TALKING EARLIER ABOUT  THE PROCESS

OF GETTING THE BALLOTS THAT   COME FROM THE MAIL OR DROP‑OFF OR WHATEVER. THEY'RE PRETTY CAREFUL ABOUT MAKING THIS. >> GOT IN A LOT QUESTIONS LAST COUPLE  OF DAYS, I WATCHED THE

PROCESS. DONE THIS BEFORE. IN CHARGE OF OPENING THE BALLOT,   OPENING THE ENVELOPES. WENT SO FAST. STACK. THIS HIGH AND WHEN THEY DO THAT POINT, ELECTION  WORKER COMES, COLLECTS THEM BOXES

THEM UP AND   EVERYBODY WATCHING THIS AND NO TIME TO  BE READING BALLOTS OR TEARING THEM UP. STICKING THEM IN. >> SEPARATE ALL. OPEN THE ENVELOPE IN THE PRIVACY SLEEVE. THERE'S NO

WAY THAT YOU CAN EVEN LOOK. >> NO PUT THE ACTUAL BALLOT IN THE STACK. GOING FAST. BOX THEM UP. COMING IN FROM KAUAI AND EVERYWHERE. ALL AROUND STATE. AND NENE THEY IT'S ALL

SECURE. FEED THEM INTO THE MACHINES COUNTING MACHINE. ON SENATE FLOOR. ONE OF THE REASONS RECOUNT IS GOING TO TAKE LONG. GO BACK 333, 350 MAIL‑IN BALLOTS LOOK FOR HOUSE   DISTRICT 39. .

>>Daryl: MY DISCUSSIONS, ONE OF THE ARGUMENTS  FOR MAIL‑IN BALLOTS IS TO SO MUCH MORE SECURE. CRIMINAL TRYING TO MESS WITH THE PROCESS. SIGNATURES OUTSIDE OF THE ENVELOPE. NEED TO BE

ABLE TO SOMEHOW  REPLICATE SOMEBODY'S SIGNATURE. AND REPLICATE IT. >>Daryl: MAKE SURE THEY   DON'T SEND IN THE BALLOT TOO. >> REPLICATE IT IN A WAY THAT WOULD FOOL THE

   COMPUTER THAT ALREADY HAS THAT PERSON'S SIGNATURE  BASED ON LIKE OTHER FORMS THAT THEY FILL OUT. DRIVER'S LICENSE AND STUFF LIKE THAT. . >>Daryl: LAST STEP, 2500 BALLOTS

ENVELOPES. WHERE THE SIGNATURE IS WEREN'T QUITE GOOD ENOUGH. THAT'S ALL. OUT OF THE   HALF A MILLION BALLOTS THAT THEY RECEIVED. SENDING LETTERS TO ALL OF THOSE PEOPLE SAYING,  

CAN YOU SEND THIS, LATEST SIGNATURE. SO WE CAN SEE IF IT MATCHES OR WHATEVER. SO LITERALLY ONLY 2500. OUT OF 500,000. WHERE THE SIGNATURES WEREN'T GOOD ENOUGH  FOR THAT SCANNER TO JUST

PUT IT IN THE SLOT. >> THEY DO RANDOM, AT LEAST I THINK, SPOKEN  WITH HONOLULU, HAWAII COUNTY, AND KAUAI COUNTY,   THEY DO RANDOM CHECKS OF SIGNATURE MATCHING  TO MAKE SURE THAT'S

PROPERLY CATCHING. >>Daryl: AMAZING HOW FAST THEY GO  THROUGH THAT COMPARISON SCANNER. GOING, IT'S AMAZING HOW FAST. >> ONE OF THE THINGS I DID WANT   TO SEE WILL ELECTION

OBSERVER AND VOLUNTEERS,  A LOT OF ESPECIALLY REPUBLICANS SIGNED UP TO   SEE FOR THEMSELVES A LOT OF PEOPLE  VOLUNTEER FOR DOING IT FOR DECADES. SENSE OF LOYALTY AND COMMUNITY.

>>Daryl: AND PRIDE. >> YEAH. . >>Daryl: ONE QUESTION FROM PERSON  IN WAIKELE. HOW YOU VOTED AND WHO   YOU VOTE FOR, IS THAT INFORMATION  AVAILABLE TO THE GENERAL PUBLIC?

WAY FOR PEOPLE TO FIGURE OUT. >> ABSOLUTELY NOT. >> NO. >>Daryl: EASY ANSWER. EVEN PEOPLE LOOKING AT OPENING  BALLOTS DON'T HAVE TIME TO LOOK. >>Daryl: SUCH A

GOOD QUESTION. ASKING ABOUT PRESIDENT TRUMP AGAIN. A LITTLE BIT. KEEP EYE ON THE TIME. ANDREA SAYS, PRESIDENT‑ELECT TRUMP INDICATING  PLANS FOR AUSE MILITARY DOMESTIC PURPOSES. SECURING

BORDER. HAWAII HAS LARGE MILITARY PRESENCE. DO YOU ENVISION MILITARY WIDE BEING DEPLOYED  IN HAWAII FOR ANY DOMESTIC PURPOSE OR DEPLOYED   TO THE BORDER PURPOSES. >> CAN I RESPOND TO

THAT? MY GRANDPARENTS' AUNTS UNCLE OWN  PARENTS WERE INTERNED DURING FOUR YEARS. DURING WORLD WAR II. NEVER ACCUSE CRIME. NEVER COMMITTED OF CRIME. MILITARY WAS DEPLOYED. >>Daryl:

DONALD TRUMP STARTS TALKING ABOUT  ROUNDING UP IMMIGRANTS RESONATES DEEPLY   WITH JAPANESE AMERICANS. NOT SO MUCH IN HAWAII. BECAUSE INTERNMENT EXPERIENCE WAS WIDESPREAD. HAPPENING UNDER

FDR. LIBERAL DEMOCRAT. DONALD TRUMP USING SAME LANGUAGE. MILITARY HAD TO THAT. >>Daryl: WHAT DO YOU   THINK RESULT IF THAT STARTED TO HAPPEN? MILITARY WENT OUT AND START THE ROUNDING

   PEOPLE UP WHAT DO YOU THINK  RESULT WOULD BE IN THE COMMUNITY? >> ULTIMATELY,. >>Daryl: SEE. I WAS ASKED SOME POINT WHETHER I WOULD LEAVE  THE COUNTRY IN DONALD TRUMP NOT

ELECTED BY VERY   LIBERAL FRIEND OF MINE. >> I SAID, NO. I THINK I WOULD HAVE STICK  AROUND FIGHT FOR DEMOCRACY. I JUST KIND OF WONDER IF DEPLOYING MILITARY  WOULD THAT BE TRIGGER FOR

PEOPLE TO HIT STREETS. WHAT WOULD BE TRIGGER PEOPLE PUT  SOMEONE IN THE STREETS TRY TO STOP IT. >> WOMEN'S MARCH IN 2016 AND 2020. TRYING TO FIGHT FOR REPRODUCTIVE RIGHTS. PEOPLE

IN THE STREETS TO POINT, IF MILITARY  DEPLOYED DOMESTICALLY ROUNDING PEOPLE UP. TOO LATE. ALREADY HAPPENING. AFRAID OF THAT HAPPENING, LIKE NOW  TIME TO START TALKING ABOUT IT. HAVING THESE

PRODUCTIVE DISCUSSIONS THAT  THAT MEAN AND IMPLICATION BEHIND IT. ONCE POLICY ENACTED AND HAPPENING  NOT MUCH YOU CAN DO AT THAT POINT. >>Daryl: QUESTION GOING BACK TO OUR VOTING

SYSTEM. I THINKING ABOUT THIS THE OTHER DAY. SCHOOLS ARE NO LONGER VOTING SITES,  WHY SHOULD WE PAY FOR STATE HOLIDAY? GIVE STATE WORKERS DAY OFF. AND WE SEND KIDS HOME FROM SCHOOL. KIND OF

CONTRARY. >> I BELIEVE LEGISLATIVE. SURE. BILL THAT STOP IT   FROM BEING HOLIDAY. ANY MORE. I DON'T THINK IT PASSED. THINK LEGISLATORS DO LISTEN THIS SHOW. MIGHT BE SOMETHING.

>> IF YOU WANT TO, YEAH. I DON'T KNOW HOW HAPPY STATE WORKS WILL BE. >>Daryl: EMPLOYEE FRIENDS CALLING ME. DO YOU THINK TRUMP WILL  SEEK RETRIBUTION FOR HAWAII? WHAT HAS

DONALD TRUMP EVER SAID ABOUT HAWAII? >> MADE REFERENCE TO MAUI WILDFIRES. >>Daryl: TERMS. >> BARACK OBAMA BORN IN KENYA. SAID JUST ONE THING THAT IS NOT TRUE.

>>Lauren: KAPIOLANI HOSPITAL, HARD TO PRONOUNCE. OKAY. ALL RIGHT. SO COUPLE QUESTIONS NOW ABOUT REPUBLICANS. REPUBLICANS ARE MAKING GAINS IN WEST OAHU. WHAT DOES THIS SAY ABOUT WHAT

THE  PEOPLE IN THAT DISTRICT WANT TO SEE? WHAT ARE THEY GETTING PREVIOUS AREA LAWMAKERS. DO YOU THINK REPUBLICANS WILL BE ABLE TO MAKE ANY  HEADWAY IN THE STATE LEGISLATURE, COMPLAINED IN  

THE PAST IGNORED BY DEMOCRATS. LUKE FROM PEARL CITY. WHAT YOU DO YOU THINK GOING TO BE IMPACT? GOT NINE REPUBLICANS IN THE STATE HOUSE. THREE REPUBLICANS IN THE STATE SENATE. DOESN'T

SOUND LIKE MUCH. LIKE A 30%, 50% INCREASE. >> YEAH. THEY MIGHT NOT HAVE THE NUMBERS THIS ELECTION. TO REALLY TIP THE SCALES IN EITHER CHAMBERS. BUT IF THINGS CONTINUE TRENDING, AS THEY

  HAVE BEEN, AND IS SUBDIVISION DISTRICTING,   SURROUNDING DISTRICTS GET REDDER AND START  MOVING TO A CAREER MASS OF SUPPORT THAT COULD   ELECT A REPUBLICAN CANDIDATE, IF THE REPUBLICAN  IN

THE HOUSE PICK UP JUST A FEW MORE, YOU KNOW,   THEY COULD START AS THEY HAVE IN THE PAST,  COURTING ONE OF THE OUTSIDE GROUPS OF DEMOCRATS   TO TRY TO OUST A HOUSE SPEAKER. HAPPENED BEFORE.

REPUBLICANS HAD JUST FIVE PEOPLE IN THE  SENATE, THEY WERE ABLE TO SPLIT CHAMBER   DOWN THE MIDDLE AND HAVE THE TWO GROUPS OF  TEN FIGHT EACH OTHER AND COURT, HAVE THEM GET   COURTED FOR

VOTES ASK FOR CONCESSIONS THAT WAY. WE MIGHT NOT SEE IT THIS SESSION BUT IF THINGS   KEEP TRENDING AS THEY ARE. FEW SESSION,   DEMOCRAT MAJORITY MIGHT HAVE A PROBLEM. >>Daryl: SEE

REPUBLICANS GETTING TOGETHER   WITH THE PROGRESSIVES IN STATE HOUSE. >> I DON'T SEE THAT HAPPENING. STATE HOUSE ARE JUST SO. >> MIGHT BE A TENUOUS ALLIANCE. MODERATE GROUP.

>> I WANT TO SAY I THINK WE'RE   ALREADY SEEING SOME OF THE EFFECT OF THIS. BECAUSE SENATE, THERE'S ONLY TWO. SENATOR FEVELLA AND SENATOR WAA  COULDN'T DECIDE MINORITY

LEEWARD. SENATOR AWA MINORITY LEADER. BECAUSE OF THAT, ABLE TO HIRE RESEARCH STAFF,   ATTORNEYS, BRINGING ON OWNER OF THE INSTAGRAM. VERY POPULAR INSTAGRAM ACCOUNT MEME   HAWAII TO RUN

COMMUNICATIONS. THAT ACCOUNT HAS 400,000 FOLLOWERS. >> YEAH, I THINK THAT'S LIKE A  HUGE MOVE FOR THEM AND I THINK THAT   ACCOUNT CLEARLY RESONATES WITH PEOPLE. ABLE TO GET MORE,

THIS COULD BE LIKE A   WATERSHED MOMENT I THINK FOR REPUBLICANS. >> IN THE HOUSE, THERE'S TWO ISSUES. ONE IS ALREADY INTERNAL BICKERING  AMONG THE SIX MINORITY CAUCUS. NOW HAVE

EIGHT FOR SURE, MAYBE  NINE IF ELIJAH GETS PASSED, RECALL. HAVE BRAND NEW ALL FIRST, ALL FEMALE HOUSE  SPEAKER NADINE NAKAMURA ANNOUNCED TODAY. GOT TO PUT THIS COALITION TOGETHER. AND SHE IS

FOLLOWING SCOTT SOUKI'S   EXAMPLE OF BEING MORE EGALITARIAN WITH  BOTH DEMOCRAT LEADERS, REPUBLICANS. DON'T HELP CONFERENCES. SHE'S GOT HER LEADERSHIP GOING AND   WE'LL

SEE HOW MUCH OUTREACH SHE GIVES TO CAUCUS. BUT I DO THINK PULLING MORE HOUSE MEMBERS DOESN'T   SOLVE THEIR PROBLEM. EVEN  SIX PEOPLE CAN'T GET ALONG. I WAS GOING TO SAY, BECAUSE

YOU KNOW DO SEE  THAT FACTION OF CONSERVATIVE REPUBLICANS. SOCIALLY CONSERVATIVE REPUBLICANS. DAVID, DAVID GARCIA,   ELIJAH, ALL GOING TO BE THERE. NEWCOMERS WHO DON'T REALLY ALIGN

THEMSELVES WITH   THAT MAGA BRAND OF REPUBLICAN, I DON'T REALLY KNOW  HOW THEY'RE GOING TO INTERACT WITH EACH OTHER. ARE THEY GOING TO BE ABLE  TO COALESCE WITH EACH OTHER.

>>Daryl: KALANI SOUZA, CAUCUS US  LEADER APPOINTED POLICY LEADER WOW. THAT'S INTERESTING. COULD BE THAT THEY COULD  BRING THEM ALL TOGETHER BECAUSE  THERE'S SO MANY OF THEM

NOW. >>Daryl: I WANTED TO MOVE ON TO  SOME OF THE RESULTS THAT NOW. BIGGEST CONTEST WE HAD, AFTER ALL OF THE COUNTY  RACES, ON OAHU, WERE JUST WIPED OUT FOR NOTHING. BIG ISLAND MAYOR.

SO COLLEEN, CLOSEST ISLAND TO THE BIG ISLAND,   WAS GOING ON ON THE BIG ISLAND? >> JUST TALKING ABOUT THAT   EARLIER BEFORE WE STARTED. MADE A GREAT POINT ABOUT   BEING CHANGE

CANDIDATE. I THINK THAT IS A BIG  PART OF WHAT HAPPENED OVER THERE, PEOPLE JUST   BEING FRUSTRATED WITH CURRENT ADMINISTRATION. >> SEE THAT NATIONAL LEVEL AND LOCAL LEVEL TOO.

INTERESTING TO SEE WHAT HAPPENED WITH BIG ISLAND,  MAUI COUNTY, IF WE HAD MAYORAL ELECTION THIS YEAR,   I THINK IT WOULD BE BIG HUGE DEBATE AND REALLY BE  A REFERENDUM HOW PEOPLE FEEL ABOUT

THE MAUI FIRE   RECOVERY AND BISSEN ADMINISTRATION HANDLED IT. HAWAII COUNTY HAS SPOKEN. INTERESTING TO SEE HOW MAUI  VOTERS FEEL ABOUT THEIR MAYOR. >>Daryl: ANY MORE COMMENTS ABOUT

THE  BIG ISLAND MAYOR'S RACE FOR YOU FOLKS? SHOCKING BECAUSE MAYOR MITCH ROTH ACTUALLY  HAD SOME PROGRESS HE COULD HAVE TALK ABOUT. HOMELESSNESS WAS A BIG. >>Daryl: COMPETENT

MAYOR. >> YEAH. >> HE HAD A 13 POINT PLAN TO SOLVE HOMELESSNESS. DECREASE HOMELESSNESS. >> HE HAD RESULTS. POINT IN TIME COUNT CAME OUT. HUGE REDUCTION OR MODERATE  

REDUCTION IN HOMELESSNESS ON BIG ISLAND. BUT I THINK END OF THE DAY, YOU SAID, THIS I   THINK ELECTION IS DEFINED BY CHANGE CANDIDATES. PEOPLE WANT SOMETHING DIFFERENT. AND AT THE END OF THE

DAY, THAT'S WHAT IT IS. THEN TALKING WITH COLIN MOORE YESTERDAY,   AND HE ALSO MENTIONED THAT ABLE  TO GET ALL THE UNION ENDORSEMENTS. THOSE TWO THINGS TOGETHER MAKES SENSE. >>

ARGUABLY TOO, ABLE TO UNDERCUT   SOME OF ROTH'S ARGUMENTS ESPECIALLY  DURING THEIR DEBATE THIS IS SEASON. >>Daryl: I THINK HE GOT MOST OF THE  LION'S SHARE OF UNION

ENDORSEMENTS. ROTH BUTTED HEADS WITH UNIONS ON MAUI,  WHOLE COUNCIL WAS UP AND ALL GOT RE‑ELECTED. I MEAN, DOESN'T THAT KIND OF SAY MAYBE PEOPLE   ARE HAPPY WITH THEIR LEADERSHIP?

>> REALLY INTERESTING BECAUSE YEAH,   FIRST ELECTION SINCE THE LAHAINA FIRES LAST YEAR. YOU THINK THAT PEOPLE WOULD BE SO FRUSTRATED,   THAT THEY WOULD SEE SOME PEOPLE GET UNSEATED.

TALKED TO WITHIN GUY DISPLACED BY THE FIRE. SAID, I JUST VOTED AGAINST EVERY  SINGLE CANDIDATE IN OFFICE. AT THE TIME OF THE FIRE. SO THERE'S SOME SENTIMENT IN THE COMMUNITY. BUT IT

WASN'T ENOUGH TO UNSEAT, I DON'T KNOW THE  LAST TIME WE SAW ELECTION WHERE COUNCIL DIDN'T   CHANGE AT ALL NOBODY STEPPED DOWN. EVERYBODY GOT RE‑ELECTED. MAUI RACE PENDING.

>> SEE WHAT HAPPENED WITH THAT. PART OF IS PEOPLE MIGHT NOT HAVE BEEN  AS INVESTED THIS YEAR'S ELECTION. NOT A MAYORAL RACE. BUT TWO, BECAUSE THERE'S SO   MANY THINGS GOING

ON WITH JUST AFTERMATH OF FIRES. TALKED TO ANOTHER FIRE SURVIVOR, I DON'T KNOW IF   I WAS GOING TO VOTE, SO MANY THINGS ON MY MIND. SAME TIME AS THE WEEK ANNIVERSARY OF THE FIRE. NOT

THINKING ABOUT THE ELECTION OR THINK THEY  WANTED TO STICK WITH THE CANDIDATES THEY KNEW   AT THE TIME, SO MUCH UNCERTAINTY FOR MAUI. >> WHAT WE'RE GOING TO SEE IN THE NEXT TWO  

YEARS IS PRO DEVELOPMENT SORT OF GROUP IS  GOING TO KEEP THE MAJORITY ON THE COUNCIL. YOU COULD EXPECT DEVELOPERS  TO HAVE BEEN AN EASIER TIME. THERE'S A LOT OF DEVELOPMENTS IN THAT

SOUTH  MAUI DISTRICT GOING TO BE COMING ONLINE   AND DOWN THE PIPELINE IN THE NEXT FEW YEARS. A LOT OF THOSE ARE GOING TO NEED EITHER APPROVALS   BY THE MAUI COUNTY COUNTER ONE OF THE BOARD

  AND COMMISSIONS THAT'S COUNCIL GETS TO APPOINT. PLANNING COMMISSION. >> GOING BACK TO LEGISLATURE,   REPUBLICAN VERSUS DEMOCRAT  LOTS OF AREAS COMMON GROUND. TAX CUT GOT WIDE

SUPPORT REPUBLICANS. >>Daryl: COST OF LIVING. HOUSING. >> THERE YOU GO. MAKING LIFE MORE AFFORDABLE. >> KEEPING FAMILIES FROM LEAVING,   CHILD CARE, AFFORDABILITY. >>

SO I WOULD NOT BE SURPRISED   IF WE SAW EVEN MORE PROGRESS IN 2025  SESSION WHEN WE START JANUARY 15. >>Daryl: ONE THING I NOTICED ON MAUI, WAS THAT  COUNCIL DID BECOME SOUNDING BOARD

FOR ALL OF THE   GRIEVANCES THAT WERE REVEALED BY THE FIRE. THEY HAD MULTIPLE HEARING. DAILY THEY WERE HAVING HEARINGS. >> AND JUST LISTENING SESSIONS. >> DO YOU THINK THAT WAS

EFFECTIVE  IN THAT MIGHT BE PART OF REASON THAT   PEOPLE FEEL WARMLY TOWARDS THE COUNCIL. >> I THINK GREAT POINT YOU BRING UP BECAUSE   AFTER THE FIRE, WHO IS THE PUBLIC FACE? HAS TO

MAKE ALL OF THESE DECISIONS PEOPLE   NOT GOING TO LIKE. TAKE ALL THE BLAME. GOING TO BE THE MAYOR. ADMINISTRATION. WHY DON'T YOU SOUND THE ALARMS. >> AB AND C.  >> LET US

BUILD OUR HOUSE? . >> COUNCIL HAD THE ADVANTAGE OF BEING THE ONES  WHO GOT TO STEP IN AND BE LIKE, WE'RE CONSIDERING   THESE CHANGES MAKE THINGS BETTER GOING FORWARD. >> OR

PUT MORE MONEY FOR   FIREFIGHTERS IN THE BUDGET. >> GOT TO STEP IN AFTER THE FACT   AND PROPOSE THOSE THESE THINGS THAT PEOPLE LIKED  OR PEOPLE HAY CHANCE TO COMMENT LIKE YOU SAID.

SPEAK OUT ABOUT THEIR CONCERNS. AND SO I THINK THAT DEFINITELY DID HELP. GOT TO TAKE THE MANTLE, WE'RE THE ONES GOING TO  HELP YOU GUYS FIND A WAY TO MAKE SURE THIS DOESN'T  

HAPPEN AGAIN. . >>Daryl: MAYBE THAT'S A LESSON FOR ALL LAWMAKERS. >> MAUI COUNTY DID EXTENSIVE SURVEYS OF WHAT   REBUILD LAHAINA SHOULD LOOK LIKE. THEY WERE REACHING OUT AND

REPORTED RESULTS AND   IT WAS PRETTY OVERWHELMING ON SOME ISSUES. PEOPLE WANTED. >>Daryl: SOME OF THEM ARE CONTRADICTORY. >> YES. PLENTY OF CONTRADICTORY. BASICALLY PEOPLE SAID

  WE WANT LAHAINA REBUILT TO LOOK LIKE OLD LAHAINA   BUT WE WANT IT UPDATED TO MODERN STANDARDS. TO YOUR POINT ABOUT LISTENING SESSIONS PEOPLE   ASKED SURVIVORS, OPINIONS, SO THERE WAS A LOT

  OF OPPORTUNITY TO TURN THE FRUSTRATIONS INTO   CAN I HAVE A VOICE IN THE FUTURE. >> I THINK BLAZE BROUGHT UP GOOD   POINT ABOUT THE COUNCIL WITH THE  MAJORITY OF CONSIDER

PRODEVELOPMENT. I THINK PEOPLE SAW THAT TOO. TIME OF LIKE  WE NEED HOUSING TO BE BUILT VERY QUICKLY. WE ARE ECONOMY IS SUFFERING  TOURISM DROPPED DRASTICALLY. SO FRUSTRATION OVER TOURISM

DRIVEN PEOPLE TO  VOTE A CERTAIN WAY PAST ELECTIONS THIS YEAR,   THINKING WE NEED OUR ECONOMY TO BE STABLE. TAX REVENUE. FUNDING. THAT'S WHY SHORT‑TERM RENTAL  BILL IS CONTROVERSIAL.

PEOPLE SAYING THAT VOTE FOR THE  GUYS THAT WE KNOW ARE SAYING   WE'RE GOING TO LOWER REGULATIONS ON HOUSING  DEVELOPMENTS, THAT'S WHAT WE NEED RIGHT NOW. >>SURVEYS REVEAL NOT

WIDESPREAD  SENTIMENT, GET RID OF TOURISM. MAUI DEPENDS ON IT. >>Daryl: LOT GOING ON. CONFUSION OF AMENDMENTS. >> ONE OF THE REASONS THAT   I WAS TOLD THAT THE LINES WERE LONG,

WENT TO  VOTE FOR PRESIDENT TRUMP OR KAMALA HARRIS AND   THEN THEY HAD ALL OF THESE QUESTIONS. BUT I MEAN, ANYTHING JUMP OUT, YOU AS   ANSWERS TO THOSE QUESTIONS THAT WE FACE. >> I AM

GENUINELY SHOCKED THAT THE   JUDICIAL APPOINTMENT QUESTION PASSED. MOST PEOPLE HAD NO IDEA WHAT THE HECK   IT WAS ASKING. SO LONG. THERE WAS LITERALLY LITERALLY 0 EDUCATION  DONE BY PEOPLE

WOULD WANTED IT PASSED. IN COMPARISON. YOU SAW MARRIAGE EQUALITY QUESTION. SO MANY, ADVERTISEMENTS, AND PEOPLE DOING  CAMPAIGNS, JIMMY UP SUPPORT FOR THIS. EVEN THOUGH I THINK PEOPLE THOUGHT

THE QUESTION  FOR THE MARRIAGE EQUALITY ONE WAS WRITTEN BADLY. CONFUSED BY IT. HOWEVER, THAT JUDICIAL APPOINTMENT QUESTION,   I'M SHOCKED THAT IT PASS. >> I WOULD ASKED MANY  

TIMES TO EXPLAIN WHAT IT WAS ALL ABOUT. OTHER DIFFERENCE BETWEEN THE CONSTITUTIONAL   AMENDMENT AN AND CHARTER AMENDMENTS,  CONSTITUTIONAL AMENDMENTS, I DON'T KNOW WHAT THIS   IS, AND

YOU LEFT IT BLANK, COUNTED AS NO VOTE. IF YOU DO THE SAME FOR THE CHARTER AMENDMENTS,   COUNTY CHARTER AMENDMENTS  DOESN'T COUNT AS NO VOTE. I THOUGHT PEOPLE WERE GOING TO GO, I 

DON'T KNOW WHAT THIS IS AND GO DOWN. >>Daryl: ONE OF THE THINGS ON THAT POINT, I DON'T  MEAN TO TOOT MY OWN HORN, COLIN MOORE AND I DID   A TALK TO EACH OTHER ABOUT ALL OF

THE AMENDMENTS  TURNED INTO A PODCAST, GOT 2,000 DOWNLOADS PEOPLE   REALLY WANTED TO HAVE INFORMATION. GENUINELY. >> BEFORE I VOTED, I READ YOUR ARTICLES. SAW YOUR VIDEOS. EXPLAINED

THESE VERY CONFUSING AMENDMENTS. . >>Daryl: I SHOULDN'T DO THAT I'M TAKE  ADVANTAGE BEING HOST OF THE SHOW. JUST MY POINT IS THAT PEOPLE  REALLY WANTED EDUCATION. THEY WANT

TO UNDERSTAND THESE AMENDMENTS. BUT THEY TEND TO GET THROWN OUT AS A   COMPROMISE BY THE LEGISLATURE WITHOUT A  WHOLE LOT OF THOUGHT LET VOTERS DECIDE. ONE OF THE QUESTIONS. >> SHOULD

BE NOTED THAT BOTH CONSTITUTIONAL   AMENDMENTS PASSED STATEWIDE ALL FIVE OF THE  HONOLULU COUNTY CHARTER AMENDMENTS PASSED. >>Daryl: HONOLULU AMENDMENTS. INTERESTING. >> NOT

SURPRISING BUT LANDSLIDE  ON THE SALARY ABILITY TO VOTE   ON OWN SALARIES FOR THE COUNCILMEMBERS. >> I THINK ALL AMENDMENTS FOR EVERY ISLAND PASSED. WERE THERE ANY THAT FAILED?

>> ONE TROUBLE BIG ISLAND EXTEND TERMS FOR   THE GOOD GOVERNMENT COMMISSION. >> YEAH. >> >> MAUI COUNTY HAD THREE. TWO OF THEN PASSED ONE DID NO. . >>Daryl:

MAYBE THAT WAS THE THE EXTEND TERMS. >> SOMETHING LIKE THAT. >>Daryl: SIGNIFICANT AMENDMENT OF MANY OF   THEM WAS THE MAUI COUNTY ETHICS ISSUE. >> YEAH. TALK ABOUT THAT A

LITTLE BIT. DID PEOPLE OVERWHELMING VOTE FOR THAT? VERY SUPPORTIVE. ONE, VERY EASY TO UNDERSTAND, TWO,   REALLY SUPPORT OVERSIGHT OF GOVERNMENT. BOARD OF ETHICS HAVE OWN STAFF. HELP

INVESTIGATE AND PROSECUTE CERTAIN  ISSUES BLAZE REPORTED ABOUT THAT. TALK ABOUT THAT. BUT YEAH, WITH CERTAIN RECENT CORRUPTION SCANDALS. PAST FEW YEARS, JAKE ENGLISH TAKING  BRIBES, STEWART

ENVIRONMENTAL   MANAGEMENT DIRECTOR TAKING BRIBES. I THINK PEOPLE SEEING HOW IMPORTANT IT   IS TO HAVE EMPOWER BOARD OF ETHICS  TO KEEP GOVERNMENT ACCOUNTABLE. >> REP CULLEN TAKING

BRIBES. >> YES. >>Daryl: I WAS KIND OF SHOCKED THEY DIDN'T. I TALKED TO MIKE LILLY VICE CHAIR, HE SAYS,   GOT APPOINTED TO THE BOARD, STAFF, NO. YOU HAVE, LIKE EVERYBODY

ELSE HAS ACTIVE   THING. INTERESTING THAT ISLAND WITH THE  MOST SCANDAL HAD NO ETHICS BOARD THERE. >> >> OAHU CAN WIN FOR MOST SCANDAL. YES. HAD SOME. >>Daryl: THERE'S

MORE OF US HERE. >> THAT'S TRUE. . >>Daryl: PER CAPITA SCANDAL. >> YEAH. BECAUSE A LOT OF BOARD   AND COMMISSIONS ARE VOLUNTEER. HAVE REALLY LIMITED RESOURCE.

SURPRISING SOMETHING SO IMPORTANT  WOULDN'T HAVE FULL‑TIME STAFF THEY NEED. . >>Daryl: DO YOU THINK THIS KIND OF   THING SHOWS INTELLIGENCE AN CONSCIENTIOUS VOTERS. >> YES.

MORE OVERSIGHT OF PEOPLE LEADING THEM AND   I THINK THAT SHOWS UP EVEN IN THESE QUESTIONS. I THINK A LOT OF US DID A LOT OF EDUCATIONAL   ARTICLES, WE HAD VOTER GUIDE. TO EVERY SINGLE

COUNTY. AND CON‑AM. MAKE IT EASY FOR PEOPLE TO ACCESS. BLAZE WROTE A BUNCH OF THEM. DAN WROTE A BUNCH OF ETHICS COMMISSION. I'M SURE YOU GUYS DO. MEDIA COMPANIES DID A GOOD JOB   TRYING

TO GET READERS AND READER TO READ THEM. >> VIEWERS AND READERS ARE VERY AKAMAI. DON'T UNDERSTAND SOMETHING, THEY RESEARCH OR  FIND OUT, WHICH IS SOMETHING THAT PEOPLE IN   HAWAII

CAN BE PROUD OF. THEY'RE FAMILIAR WITH   THEIR INSTITUTIONS AND CARE ABOUT THEM. OPPORTUNITY TO TAKE OUT FRUSTRATIONS WHEN   IT COMES TO VOTE. I THINK. >>Daryl: DO YOU WANT TO

SEE SOMETHING? >> I STILL DON'T UNDERSTAND WHAT THE HELL THIS   JUDICIAL APPOINTMENT THING IS. (LAUGHTER). >> I THINK VOTERS ARE VERY INTELLIGENCE. >> I CAN EXPLAIN

THIS. WRITTEN ABOUT IT. >>Daryl: THEY KNOW. VERY SMALL CHANGE. EVEN KARL RHODES WENT, IF IT DOESN'T PASS. NOT A BIG DEAL. I LIKE THIS QUESTION. BECAUSE IT BRINGS UP SOMETHING THAT

SO  IRRITATING THAT WE ALL SAW WAS THAT AS   SOON AS THE POLLS CLOSED AROUND THE COUNTRY, WAY  BEFORE WE COUNTED SINGLE VOTE, ALL THE NETWORKS   DECLARED HAWAII FOR KAMALA HARRIS. I THINK

AND FOR MAZIE HIRONO. HOW DOES THAT HAPPEN? MAYBE I'M THE TV GUIDE. SHOULD EXPLAIN. BUT YOU KNOW, QUESTION CAME UP, EXPLAIN   ELECTORAL COLLEGE VOTES. POLLS CLOSED AT 7:00. VOTES

TOTALED AT 7:00. STANDING IN LINE STILL THERE 7:30. TOLD ME TODAY, HE WATCHED PEOPLE JUST LEAVE. TOLD ME SAME THING. >> WHY DOES THIS HAPPEN? HAWAII JUST OUT OF IT. >>  >>

ALSO THE REASON WHY YOU  CANNOT RELEASE HAWAII POLL   RETURNS WHILE THE LAST PERSON STANDING IN LINE. >> DON'T WANT THAT PHENOMENA TO HAPPEN TO AFFECT. >> SAME TIME,

THOUSANDS AND THOUSANDS OF  OTHER PEOPLE THAT WANT THE RESULTS SOONER. >> >> TV JOURNALIST, SAYING WE SHOULD PREVENT   NETWORKS FROM SAYING THAT? . >>Daryl: I WISH I COULD.

I DID SAY ON TELEVISION REPREHENSIBLE THAT THEY   DID IT BUT BECAUSE IT JUST MAKES PEOPLE FEEL LIKE. >> DOESN'T EVEN MATTER. VOTES LEAKED OUT. CREDIBILITY THINGS. HOW DO YOU FEEL

MEDIA HANDLES  ELECTIONS? I WISH MORE OF US DOING THIS. SMALL STAFF. ALL RETURNING AS THINLY AS   POSSIBLE ON THE THINNEST OF MARGINS, I THINK. THAT IS EVEN MORE SO REASONS WHY YOU SHOULD

   SUPPORT LOCAL JOURNALISM COMPLETELY  UNBIASED LOCAL JOURNALIST. YEAH. >> ARE YOU TALKING NATIONALLY OR LOCALLY? . >>Daryl: WHATEVER YOU WANT TO TALK   ABOUT. I MEAN, I THINK

THAT WE DO THE BEST WE CAN  BUT ARE WE EVER GOING TO BE GOOD ENOUGH AT THIS? TO ASHLEY'S POINT, MEDIA LOCALLY, ACROSS  THE COUNTRY, BEEN GUTTED NATIONALLY. NETWORKS HALF PEOPLE

DON'T  BELIEVE A WORD THE NETWORKS SAY. WHAT ARE WE GOING TO DO ABOUT THAT? >> AFTER THE FIRST TRUMP, OR PRESIDENCY,   NATIONAL MEDIA DID DO SOME SOUL  SEARCHING, CRITICAL,

CALLING OUT   FALSEHOOD AND HYPOCRISIES LATEST CAMPAIGN THAN  THEY WERE IN 2020 TRYING TO BE MUTUAL UMPIRES. >>Daryl: DO YOU THINK THAT WE MAINTAIN CREDIBILITY  LEVEL TO CONVINCE

PEOPLE WE'RE TELLING THE TRUTH? >> LOCALLY, YES. A GET A LOT OF GOOD FEEDBACK EVERYONE'S   COVERAGE LOCALLY OF ISSUES ON THE NATIONAL LEVEL. AS A LOCAL JOURNALIST, I

DON'T GET THIS OBSESSION   WITH WE'RE WATCHING THE NETWORK NEWS, ZOOMING  INTO EVERY SINGLE COUNTY SAYING, YOU KNOW,   HERE'S WHAT'S HAPPENING HERE. AND HARRIS NEEDS TO

BREAK THIS   THRESHOLD TO ACCORDING TO 5:38 POLLS. THIS WEIRD OBSESSION WITH MINUTIAE FLIES   OVER MOST PEOPLE'S HEADS UNLESS YOU'RE THE MOST  ZEALOUS OF POLITICAL WATCHERS, THAT

SORT OF THING,   FOCUS ON THE HORSE RACE RATHER THAN THE  POLICY I THINK IS WHAT PEOPLE LOOK AT THAT. WHAT'S THE POINT? >> WE ALL HAD THE   EXPERIENCE DURING THE FIRST TRUMP

ADMINISTRATION  WHERE MAGA SUPPORTERS CAME OUT OF THE WOODWORK. >> AND I THINK THAT IS GOING  TO HAPPEN IN HAWAII AGAIN  STARTING 2025. CALLING FAKE NEWS AND ENEMY OF THE STATE.

PRESIDENT TRUMP JUST LAST WEEKEND SAID THROWING  BOTH, CAMPAIGN EVENT AND SOMEBODY TAKING A SHOT   HIM, HIT SOME REPORTERS, SO BE IT. >>Daryl: YOU SAID REPORTERS   WERE PART OF THE

BULLET SCREEN. YOUR OWN THOUGHTS WHERE THE MEDIA   FITS INTO THIS ANY MORE. >> TOUGH. I THINK LOCALLY, DOES HELP THAT SMALLER  COMMUNITIES, PEOPLE KNOW THEIR JOURNALIST. HAVE TO BE

THERE ON THE GROUND. >> REALLY THINK ABOUT   OUR IMPACTS TO OWN COMMUNITY. DEFINITELY DIFFERENT THAN NATIONAL LEVEL. MEDIA RELATIONSHIP WITH THE PUBLIC HAS CHANGED  DRASTICALLY SINCE

2016 ELECTION ADMINISTRATION. ONE OF TRUMP'S FIRST MOVES WAS TO LET ME CONVINCE  PEOPLE WHO SUPPORT ME THAT ONLY WHAT I SAY IS TRUE   AND ANYBODY WHO SPEAKS OUT OF  AGAINST ME IS

TELLING A LIE. AND HE IS PUSHED THAT FROM DAY ONE TO  THE POINT WHERE, AGAIN, ANYBODY WHO HAS   ANYTHING DIFFERENT TO SAY, CONSIDERED FAKE NEWS. >>Daryl: DIVISIONS OF COUNTRY ARE JUST

EXPOSED. ANYBODY HERE REALLY DON'T HAVE MUCH TIME LEFT. FEEL LIKE THERE'S HOPE NOW TO BRING THE   COUNTRY TOGETHER? >> YEAH, I THINK SO. >> PEOPLE ARE GOING TO FEEL

MORE ENERGIZED THAN  EVER TO SAY TO STEP UP TO MAKE A DIFFERENCE. IF YOU FELT LIKE YOU DIDN'T AGREE WITH THE  RESULTS OR YOU FEEL LIKE VOICE WASN'T HEARD,   NOW IS THE TIME TO STEP

UP AND GET TO WORK. WE HAVE TWO YEARS UNTIL THE NEXT ELECTION. ANOTHER REFERENDUM OR OUR CURRENT GOVERNMENT. MORE IMPORTANT NOW THAN EVER I THINK FOR PEOPLE   TO START ORGANIZING FIGURING

OUT WAY  WANTED TO STAND FOR AND PRESENT THAT. >> BRING EVERYBODY TOGETHER. BLAZE,. >> I HAVE WONDERED IF TRUMP HAVING THIS BROADER  COALITION OF VOTERS AMONG ACROSS THE COUNTRY

WILL   SORT OF LIKE WEIRD WAY, RECENTER FORCE EVERYTHING  BACK TO THE CENTER AS OPPOSED TO GOING TOWARDS   THE EXTREME. . >>Daryl: WE ARE NOW OUT OF TIME. THANK YOU GUYS. MAHALO FOR

JOINING US TONIGHT AND WE THANK OUR GUESTS,  ASHLEY MIZUO FROM HAWAII PUBLIC RADIO, COLLEEN UECHI  FROM THE HAWAII JOURNALISM INITIATIVE, BLAZE LOVELL FROM  CIVIL BEAT, AND DAN NAKASO FROM

THE HONOLULU  STAR‑ADVERTISER. NEXT WEEK ON INSIGHTS, WE WILL  TALK ABOUT HAWAII’S SELF‑DEFENSE LAW WHICH HAS  COME UNDER RENEWED SCRUTINY AFTER POLICE ARRESTED A  WAIANAE MAN WHO KILLED A

NEIGHBOR WHO HAD ALREADY  KILLED OR WOUNDED SEVERAL PEOPLE ON HIS PROPERTY. PLEASE JOIN US THEN. I’M DARYL HUFF FOR INSIGHTS ON  PBS HAWAII. ALOHA.